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United Therapeutics Corporation (UTHR) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript
联合治疗公司 (UTHR) 2024 年第二季度收益电话会议记录

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United Therapeutics Corporation (NASDAQ:UTHR) Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call July 31, 2024 9:00 AM ET
联合治疗公司(纳斯达克股票代码: UTHR )2024 年第二季度收益电话会议 2024 年 7 月 31 日上午 9:00 美国东部时间

Company Participants 公司参与者

Dewey Steadman - Head of Investor Relations
Dewey Steadman - 投资者关系主管

Martine Rothblatt - Chairperson & Chief Executive Officer
Martine Rothblatt - 董事长兼首席执行官

Michael Benkowitz - President & Chief Operating Officer
Michael Benkowitz - 总裁兼首席运营官

James Edgemond - Chief Financial Officer & Treasurer
James Edgemond - 首席财务官兼财务主管

Leigh Peterson - Executive Vice President-Product Development & Xenotransplantation
Leigh Peterson - 产品开发和异种移植执行副总裁

Conference Call Participants
电话会议参与者

Roanna Ruiz - Leerink Partners
罗安娜·鲁伊斯 - Leerink Partners

Jessica Fye - JPMorgan 杰西卡·菲伊 - 摩根大通
Ash Verma - UBS 阿什·维尔玛 - 瑞银
Joseph Thome - TD Cowen
约瑟夫·托姆 - TD Cowen

Andreas Argyrides – Oppenheimer
安德烈亚斯·阿吉里德斯 – 奥本海默

Operator 操作员

Good morning, everyone and welcome to the United Therapeutics Corporation Second Quarter 2024 Earnings Webcast. My name is Cole and I will be your conference operator today. All participants on the call portion of this webcast will be in listen-only mode until the question-and-answer portion of the earnings call. [Operator Instructions] And please note this call is being recorded.
大家早上好,欢迎收看联合治疗公司 2024 年第二季度收益网络广播。我叫科尔,今天我将担任你们的会议操作员。本次网络广播电话会议部分的所有参与者都将处于只听模式,直到财报电话会议的问答部分。 [操作员说明] 请注意此通话正在录音。

I would now like to turn the webcast over to Dewey Steadman, Head of Investor Relations at United Therapeutics. Please go ahead.
我现在想将网络广播交给 United Therapeutics 投资者关系主管 Dewey Steadman。请继续。

Dewey Steadman 杜威·斯特德曼

Yes. Thank you, Cole. Good morning. It's my pleasure to welcome you to the United Therapeutics Corporation's second quarter 2024 earnings webcast. Remarks we make today will include forward-looking statements representing our expectations or beliefs regarding future events. These statements will involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. Our latest SEC filings, including Forms 10-K and 10-Q, contain additional information on these risks and uncertainties, and we assume no obligation to update these forward-looking statements.
是的。谢谢你,科尔。早上好。我很高兴欢迎您观看联合治疗公司 2024 年第二季度收益网络广播。我们今天发表的言论将包括代表我们对未来事件的期望或信念的前瞻性陈述。这些陈述将涉及风险和不确定性,可能导致实际结果存在重大差异。我们最新的 SEC 文件(包括表格 10-K 和 10-Q)包含有关这些风险和不确定性的更多信息,我们不承担更新这些前瞻性声明的义务。

Remarks today may discuss the progress and results of clinical trials or other developments with respect to our products and these remarks are intended solely to educate investors and are not intended to serve as the basics for medical decision-making or to suggest that any products are safe and effective for any unapproved or investigational uses. And full prescribing information for the products are available on our website.
今天的言论可能会讨论与我们产品相关的临床试验或其他发展的进展和结果,这些言论仅旨在教育投资者,无意作为医疗决策的基础或表明任何产品是安全的对任何未经批准或研究用途均有效。我们的网站上提供了产品的完整处方信息。

Accompanying me on today's call are Dr. Martine Rothblatt, our Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer; Michael Benkowitz, our President and Chief Operating Officer; James Edgemond, our Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer; Dr. Leigh Peterson, our Executive Vice President, Product Development and Xenotransplantation and Pat Poisson, our Executive Vice President of Technical Operations.
陪同我参加今天的电话会议的是我们的董事长兼首席执行官 Martine Rothblatt 博士; Michael Benkowitz,我们的总裁兼首席运营官; James Edgemond,我们的首席财务官兼财务主管; Leigh Peterson 博士是我们的产品开发和异种移植执行副总裁,Pat Poisson 是我们的技术运营执行副总裁。

Note that Michael Benkowitz and I will participate in a fireside chat and one-on-one meetings at the Morgan Stanley 22nd Annual and Global Healthcare Conference in New York on September 4, and James Edgemond and I will participate in a fireside chat and one-on-one meetings at the 2024 Wells Fargo Health Care Conference in Boston the next day, September 5.
请注意,Michael Benkowitz 和我将参加 9 月 4 日在纽约举行的摩根士丹利第 22 届年度及全球医疗保健会议上的炉边聊天和一对一会议,而 James Edgemond 和我将参加炉边聊天和一对一会议。第二天(9 月 5 日),在波士顿举行的 2024 年富国银行医疗保健会议上进行一对一会议。

Our scientific, commercial and medical affairs team will be present at the Pulmonary Hypertension Association 2024 International PAH Conference and scientific sessions, August 15 to 18 in Indianapolis, the European Respiratory Society Congress in Vienna, September 7 to 11, and the American College of Chest Physicians CHEST 2024 Annual Meeting in Boston, October 6 through the 9.
我们的科学、商业和医疗事务团队将出席 8 月 15 日至 18 日在印第安纳波利斯举行的肺动脉高压协会 2024 年国际 PAH 会议和科学会议、9 月 7 日至 11 日在维也纳举行的欧洲呼吸学会大会以及美国胸科学会医师胸部 2024 年年会于 10 月 6 日至 9 日在波士顿举行。

Now I will turn the webcast over to Dr. Rothblatt for an overview of our second quarter 2024 financial results and the business activities of United Therapeutics. Dr. Rothblatt?
现在我将把网络广播交给 Rothblatt 博士,概述我们 2024 年第二季度的财务业绩和 United Therapeutics 的业务活动。罗斯布拉特博士?

Martine Rothblatt 玛蒂娜·罗斯布拉特

Thank you very Dewey, We at UT are very pleased and proud to present the results of another record quarter. As described in the press release, PowerPoint and the financials, we are doing very well across the board. Double-digit revenue growth is the norm. In a moment, our President, Mike Benkowitz, will provide some deep insight into these numbers. So let me start with the strategic overview.
非常感谢杜威,我们在 UT 非常高兴和自豪地呈现另一个创纪录季度的结果。正如新闻稿、PowerPoint 和财务报告中所述,我们的整体表现非常好。两位数的收入增长是常态。稍后,我们的总统迈克·本科维茨(Mike Benkowitz)将对这些数字提供一些深入的见解。让我从战略概述开始。

We see our business as three waves of success. First, approved products that are market leaders for the mid-2020s. Second, next-generation products and new indications that can be market leaders in the late 2020s. Third, an organ manufacturing business that can transform the treatment of end-stage organ disease.
我们将我们的业务视为三波成功。首先,批准成为 2020 年代中期市场领导者的产品。其次,下一代产品和新适应症可以在 2020 年代末成为市场领导者。第三,器官制造业务可以改变终末期器官疾病的治疗。

Examples of the first wave are Remodulin, Tyvaso, Orenitram and Unituxin. Examples of the second wave are Ralinepag as a once-daily pill for pulmonary hypertension and our TETON trial aiming to show improvement in pulmonary fibrosis. Examples of our third wave of success are our xenotransplantation products that offer tremendous potential for the thousands patients on dialysis.
第一波的例子有 Remodulin、Tyvaso、Orenitram 和 Unituxin。第二波的例子包括每日一次治疗肺动脉高压的 Ralinepag 以及旨在改善肺纤维化的 TETON 试验。我们第三次成功的例子是我们的异种移植产品,它为成千上万的透析患者提供了巨大的潜力。

Now I'm sometimes asked with all of this success, Martine, what keeps you up at night. Well, let me start with what does not keep me up. What does not keep me up is our foundational business, because I do not see any threats to the vitality of our Remodulin, Tyvaso or Orenitram products. For Remodulin and Tyvaso, my confidence is borne of the uniqueness and clinical efficacy of our drug device combination technology. For Remodulin, there is no other parenteral drug delivery device that is as small accurate and easy to use as our Remunity Pump. It's happened acoustic volume sensing technology is more than 10 times more accurate than legacy pumps and has fewer moving parts.
现在,我有时会被问到,为什么我能取得如此巨大的成功,马丁娜,是什么让你彻夜难眠。好吧,让我从那些让我无法坚持下去的事情开始。让我无法继续前进的是我们的基础业务,因为我没有看到我们的 Remodulin、Tyvaso 或 Orenitram 产品的生命力受到任何威胁。对于 Remodulin 和 Tyvaso,我的信心来自于我们药物器械组合技术的独特性和临床功效。对于 Remodulin,没有任何其他肠外给药装置能够像我们的 Remunity Pump 一样小巧、准确且易于使用。声学体积传感技术的精确度比传统泵高 10 倍以上,并且移动部件更少。

For Tyvaso, there is no other dry powder inhaler so well matched to deep lung delivery of our drug as the mankind DPI. The proof is really in the pudding in record time, thousands of patients have begun using our patented device in both old and new pulmonary indications, such as pulmonary arterial hypertension and interstitial lung disease. Competition in our current foundational business doesn't really keep me up either, because they are mostly used in combination with our drugs or if not used drug delivery devices that are not as elegant as our and DPI devices.

Now let me jump ahead to the organ business. That also doesn't keep me up because in the last year, we have obtained multiple times scientific proof that our Xeno kidney function well in human bodies with no more immunosuppression than an allograft. Folks that cannot happen by accident. Of course, there's much more work to do to get these Xeno kidney FDA approved and even more work to do to get them into quantity production, but I see no show stoppers, and we have achieved proof of concept.

It is only in our second wave of success, Tyvaso for pulmonary fibrosis and Ralinepag for PAH that I find myself kept up at night. The reason is that the results a clinical trial cannot be known until it is unblinded. And even a study that is 90% powered for success by definition, still has a 10% chance of missing. Of course, we are doing everything we can to ensure the credibility and approvability of our IPF and Ralinepag clinical trials. But because these two products have the potential to more than double our current $3 billion revenue run rate, the stakes are extremely high.

In conclusion, UT is a rock-solid bet on its current foundational business. UT is a very, very good bet and a highly rewarding one at that in its next stage generation products that are now in late-stage clinical trials. And UT is a once-in-a-lifetime biotechnology opportunity in manufactured organs.

With that strategic overview, I'd like to now turn the call over to our President, Michael Benkowitz. Mike?

Michael Benkowitz

Thanks Martine and good morning, everyone. As Martine noted, today, we reported yet another quarter of record revenue at $715 million and 20% growth from the second quarter of 2023. We saw meaningful worldwide revenue growth for all of our key products, Tyvaso, Orenitram, Remodulin, and Unituxin.

First, I want to touch on Tyvaso, which when viewing the nebulizer and dry powder inhaler delivery systems together, remains the number one prescribed prostacyclin treatment in the U.S.

Total Tyvaso revenue for the second quarter was $398 million, up 25% over last year with growth led by continued uptake of Tyvaso DPI, increase in pricing, and increased commercial utilization, following the implementation of the Part D redesign provisions under the Inflation Reduction Act, or IRA. For the franchise, we saw record referrals and starts during the quarter, leading us to have confidence in the durability of our growth profile, as Martine mentioned.

The percentage of Tyvaso DPI patients using our patient access programs continues to tick down following the implementation of the first provisions of the IRA earlier this year, albeit not at the same rate we saw between the fourth quarter of 2023 and the first quarter of 2024.

We could continue to see a modest decline in patient access program utilization through the remainder of the year as new patients on therapy are less likely to need patient assistance, having met their copay obligations on another product before starting Tyvaso DPI. The benefit from this could be offset by modest rebates from our initial contracting efforts to ensure a period of access in the future for Tyvaso DPI.

As an aside, we understand that CMS will soon publish the negotiated prices for the first 10 drugs selected under the IRA's drug price negotiation provision. I want to remind investors that our drugs are not on this list. In addition, based on our current understanding of the IRA statute and guidance issued by CMS thus far, we expect our treprostinil products will not be subject to price negotiation under the IRA because there is at least one marketed generic version of treprostinil.

Moving to Orenitram. We reported getting another quarter of record revenue at $107 million, representing 13% growth from the second quarter of 2023. Like the first quarter, this was driven by a combination of increased commercial utilization, pricing, and a modest increase in average dose from prior quarter levels.

Recall that Orenitram and Remodulin are priced on a per milligram basis. Like with Tyvaso DPI, we saw a modest decrease in patient access program used for Orenitram in the second quarter, driven by the same dynamics. Likewise, we expect a modest decline in patient access program used through the remainder of the year.

Our medical teams continue to have scientific discussions based on recent scientific publications, with healthcare providers on the EXPEDITE induction protocol where PAH patients initiate on Remodulin and then transition to Orenitram as an option for appropriate patients who may not want or need to go on long-term parenteral therapy.

Moving to Remodulin. Worldwide revenue of $147 million was up 16% from last year with very strong performance across all of our underlying demand metrics. And this comes five years after the first launch of generic Remodulin, reflecting our continued commitment to our patients and Remodulin.

Remodulin, both intravenous and subcutaneous remains the most prescribed parental prostacyclin in the US. Our Remunity pump remains the only option for new subcutaneous patient starts. Last quarter, we heard through the channel that specialty pharmacy distributors are going to start proactively converting all subcu treprostinil use, to Remodulin and our immunity pump given the discontinuation of support for the CAD MS3 system by its manufacturer. We've seen this trend continue through the second quarter.

Finally, Unituxin. Worldwide revenue of $52 million was up 17% from the prior year quarter and US Unituxin revenue of $47 million was up 18%. US growth was driven by price and volume.

To wrap-up with our fifth quarter in a row of record revenue, our commercial products clearly have the innovation, interest momentum and muscle to continue to grow serve our patients.

With that, I'll turn the call back over to Martine to run the Q&A.

Martine Rothblatt

Michael, that was just such a perfect overview of everything. Thanks so much, and thanks for all of all of your leadership in those areas. Operator, you may now bring forward the first call.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] We will pause momentarily for the first question. Today, it will come from Roanna Ruiz with Leerink Partners. Please go ahead.

Roanna Ruiz

Hey, good morning, everyone. So I was curious, could you elaborate a bit on the different drivers you saw in quarter for Tyvaso DPI versus nebulized Tyvaso. And were there any changes or reasons for greater confidence coming through, like I think you mentioned increased number of referrals and possibly ramping the new field force that we should keep in mind going into 3Q this year?

Martine Rothblatt

Thank you for that question, Roanna, that type of commercialization question would be best handled by Michael.

Michael Benkowitz

Sure. Thanks for the question. So I think the underlying demand metrics, just kind of -- we continue to just, I think, plug along or tug-along like we have the past few quarters with the referrals and the starts and continues to come from both Group 1 PAH as well as Group 3 PAH ILD.

The second part of your question about the sales force, I think we're starting to see some of the impact of that sales force expansion in the second quarter. As you recall, we started that ramp-up in the last fall, really fully deployed that team January 1. And of course, it takes a little bit of time for the reps to get out in the field and get in front of those physicians and have the opportunity to educate them on the benefits of our products. But what's been really nice to see so far in the first six months is the increase in the number of ILD prescribers actually writing Tyvaso.

So when we first launched in the PAH ILD a couple of years ago, our efforts are really focused on educating around the need to screen for pulmonary hypertension. And then once they started to do that -- that the patients had, pulmonary hypertension associated with ILD, then they can make the decision whether we refer that patient into the PH clinic or trying to treat it themselves. I would say, the vast majority of doctors at that time started referring to the PAH clinic.

So -- but we knew really -- for us to I think, realize the full opportunity that have in PAH-ILD, these physicians are going to have to start treating just because of the number of patients that are out there and the bandwidth constraints on the physicians in the PAH clinic. So it's been really nice to see that over the last six months, we really started to increase the breadth of ILD prescribers as well as the depth and recall the depth metric we always look at is physicians with 30-plus [ph] patients. And so we're seeing really positive momentum and growth on both of those key metrics.

Martine Rothblatt

Thank you so much, Mike, and thank you, Roanna, for your question. Operator, you could bring forward the next question.

Operator

And our next question will come from Jessica Fye with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Jessica Fye

Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Curious if you could talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the PAH marketplace as it relates to the initial winner of your launch. Do your observations line up with Merck's commentary yesterday, have you noticed any changes in referrals or starts in PAH?

Martine Rothblatt

Thanks, Jess. Nice to hear your voice this morning. Again, I think it's a market dynamic question that Michael is the best person to answer.

Michael Benkowitz

Yeah, sure. Thanks for the question, Jess. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to really comment too much on Merck's product. I mean they're plenty capable of speaking to sell. I would say with respect to our business and specifically in the PAH, I think the business remains very solid, very strong, really strong referral growth, really, really strong start growth, patient shipments, all of the underlying demand metrics continue to be in line with what we expect and where we think we need to be, and that's obviously being reflected in the revenue line on our financial statement.

So, yes, at this point, in the first quarter, no surprises there. I think as Martine said in opening remarks, if you look at the Merck’s clinical trial, most of those patients were using sotatercept in combination with prostacyclins and that certainly at least seems to be how that's playing out so far.

Martine Rothblatt

Perfect. Thanks so much, Mike. Thank you, Jess. Operator, could you bring forward the next question, please.

Operator

And our next question will come from Ash Verma with UBS. Please go ahead.

Ash Verma

Great. Thanks for that. So my question just wanted to understand. So look, I mean, I think the stock has reacted pretty favorably to the ASR. And I know from a cash outflow, you mentioned last quarter that you have now a more specific understanding of what's required for Xeno. So given where we are right now, like what's your appetite for another significant share buyback or another ASR?

Martine Rothblatt

Thank you for your question, Ash. That being basically a kind of a capital allocation question, I think the best person on the call to answer that would be our Chief Financial Officer, James Edgemond. James?

James Edgemond

Great. Thanks, Martine. Ash, good to hear your voice. Thank you for the question. Two kinds of responses to your question; one is, our current ASR is still in process. The existing or the second tranche as we've described in our disclosure, the $700 million still is in process through the end of September of this year. So we're going to first focus on executing the existing ASR and share repurchase program.

A second kind of consideration is, we are still committed to allocating capital wisely. And in the best interest of stakeholders by first deploying it, as we've said historically, Ash, internally for our R&D initiatives, including manufacturing facilities and included in those manufacturing facilities certainly is our consideration of future commercial DPF capital requirements.

Second is we're going to still focus on corporate development to find those opportunities where we think can bring value to shareholders and value to patients. And third, kind of what we've said to be [indiscernible] at the beginning, our current share repurchase program.

So our capital allocation program will continue to continue to be the same. We'll evaluate and get more knowledgeable about construction of the DPF facilities. But right now, we're just going to continue to focus on the ASR that's in place and then continue to use that capital allocation waterfall to evaluate any future opportunities, whether it's share repurchase or otherwise. But thank you for the question, Martine, back to you.

Martine Rothblatt

James, that was a 360-degree comprehensive answer to Ash. So, greatly appreciated. Operator, next question, please.

Operator

And our next question will come from Joseph Thome with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Joseph Thome

Hi there. Good morning and thank you for taking my question. Maybe just 1 on the filing strategy for IPF, assuming success. I guess, do both of the ongoing IPF studies need to be successful in order to pursue a filing? Or do you think there is a P-value level or a level of benefit that you could see in one where you maybe would only need one of these studies to work and any feedback from the FDA on that point would be helpful if you have it? Thank you.

Martine Rothblatt

Thank you, Joe, for that question. Fortunately, we have on our call the person who's in charge of that entire program, Dr. Leigh Peterson. So Dr. Peterson, could you kindly respond to Joe?

Leigh Peterson

Yes, sure. We haven't recently discussed this with FDA. I mean this was really early, early discussions with the IND, they really just gave us the boilerplate language that they always do, which is typically we require 2 studies for 2 positive studies for registration. But of course, I mean, if we see, we'll likely see the TETON2 results coming out before TETON1, at least the top line results because as you know, we completed the TETON2 enrollment period early. And so we'll see those, and we will certainly continue discussions with FDA. I mean assuming a really significant, highly positive, clinically significant results, then we will certainly have a discussion with them about that.

Martine Rothblatt

Thank you so much, Dr. Peterson. And -- just to -- because she's too modest to really TETON's [ph] horn, but I just want to remind everybody that Dr. Peterson and Dr. Smith, her right-hand clinical trial leader. They're the same team that executed so successfully or interstitial lung disease trial that resulted in the -- in really much of what we are celebrating today, the explosive growth in Group 3 PAH and the entry into that space of DPI. So this team, I can -- I know for sure, because I see them often, they, too, they sweat this trial day and night, and we are -- this is our -- somebody said like, what is your number one priority, it is the success with the TETON trial and the indication to achieve an indication in pulmonary fibrosis, a market that is probably three times the size of pulmonary hypertension market.

And again, our trial design is in combination with already approved background therapies. So there's no real kind of having to like take a patient off a drug to start them on an inhaled treprostinil. And similarly, there's no need to put patient on another drug to start them because we have both types of patients in the trial. So we would hope for all of that to be in the label. Anyway, sorry to ramble on there a bit, Dr. Peterson, but great answer to Joe. And operator, due the time we have time for just one more question.

Operator

And that question will come from Andreas Argyrides with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Andreas Argyrides

Good morning and thanks for taking our questions. And continuing on the topic of TETON. What kind of bridging study might the FDA require to approve evasive DPI in addition to the nebulized if TETON is successful? And then how are you thinking about presenting data. I mean, is there a chance for maybe like an interim readout of sorts or anything like that?

Martine Rothblatt

Okay. Yes. Thanks for those two questions. Again, I think Dr. Peterson would be the best person on the call to answer. Once again, just for your recollection, she and her team did the bridging study from the Tyvaso Nebulizer into the DPI for PAH. So she's very, very familiar with how to do that. She also was the lead author in a publication on those results in the New England Journal of Medicine. So very much on top of getting the word out in the most credible and respected way. So with that little two tooth of your horn, Dr. Peterson, can you answer the questions?

Leigh Peterson

Thank you. Yes, Sure. So for the bridging study, again, we will -- well, let me answer the second question first for interim results. We will not do an interim analysis or an interim look. We have, for TETON 2, as I just said, we have completed enrollment. So we're in the final follow-up period, and we will have the actual final results within a year, just shortly after the year follow-up is up. So we completed in July, so that would be July plus some time to clean those data just for the top line results.

So that will be the next time we -- that will be the first time we see the actual results from these -- one of these studies. And as far as bridging into DPI. Now as you know, the -- so what we did for in our BREEZE study, we looked at PAH patients. We transitioned from nebulized Tyvaso to Tyvaso DPI and that was actually sufficient to get approval for both PAH patients and PH-ILD patients for the Tyvaso DPI.

Now for the IPF studies, we still have some ongoing discussions with FDA. We will be discussing as soon as -- I mean, really, when we get further into the follow-up period or when we get top line results, we're going to have a discussion because it's a different group. It's the pulmonary division for IPF versus the cardiorenal division for PAH and PH-ILD, so different group, different people, sometimes just slightly different requirements.

So we need to just confirm what we need to do for the bridging. It might be a matter of small sub-study in our TETON-OLE program, so we need to sort that out. But again, it shouldn't delay. We'll get the results of the TETON studies. We will pursue the approval based on the TETON 1, TETON 2. And then while that is occurring, we'll do what we need to do for bridging.

Martine Rothblatt

Excellent. Excellent answer. Thank you so much, Dr. Peterson. Thank you, everybody, for being on the call today. I'd like to just wrap up with drawing everybody's attention to the terrific PowerPoint that Dewey Steadman and his team released, I think it's not only aesthetically beautiful, which it is, it's just rich in content, graphs, charts, numbers, kind of strategic overview, kind of things. So please study that PowerPoint at depth, if you really want to understand the beauty of the United Therapeutics story.

And then finally, I'd like to just do a shout out to everybody that is part of our United Therapeutics family, what we call Unitherians. We're now bumping up on 1,500 people. And it's in line with the metric that Michael, James and I have long adopted at UT to grow our headcount in accordance with a revenue per head metric of approximately $2 million per head, and that's on par with the absolute best, not only of biotech, but of really American corporations in general.

So now that we're knocking on the door of a $3 billion revenue run rate, that's $2 million per head for our knocking on the door of 1,500 people. And it's just another tremendous testament to the success of United Therapeutics and to the fact that the leaders of this company, Michael, James, myself, Pat Poisson, Dr. Peterson, others for all of us, our number one goal is to make sure that everybody working at our company is having the absolute best career development experience of their dreams.

And so long as that is happening, then all of our goals pretty much happen automatically. And I think a great -- another metric I can share with you that I got from our HR department is our percentage of employees who voluntarily terminate, we call voluntary termination rate is about 5%. That far lower than I think any of our peers, but certainly far lower than the averages in the biotech sector and definitely outside biotech.

So the numbers say we're doing things right, the people say we're doing things right. And I hope all of you agree that we're doing the things you want to see us do. Have a great day.

Operator, you can close the call.

Operator

Thank you for participating in today's United Therapeutics Corporation earnings webcast. A rebroadcast of this webcast will be available for replay for one week by visiting the Events and Presentations section of the United Therapeutics Investor Relations website at ir.unither.com.

Thank you again for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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