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[–]k_Parth_singh 55 指標56 指標  (13 下層留言)

I wonder if Arc can sue them?
不知道 Arc 能否起诉他们?

[–]starfihgter 66 指標67 指標  (10 下層留言)

I’ll take a hot guess that this is a Chinese company, in which case no. China does not care about foreign copyright law in the slightest.

[–]tilsgee 11 指標12 指標  (1 下層留言)

Not just your average Chinese company, even. We're talking about Tencent, here. Cause QQ (as a brand and social media) is owned by Tencent
甚至不是普通的中国公司。我们这里说的是腾讯。因为 QQ(作为一个品牌和社交媒体)归腾讯所有

[–]starfihgter 4 指標5 指標  (0 下層留言)

True, so while Tencent could actually be found liable for damages in the US, their resources vastly outweigh Arc’s and would probably make it a battle not worth fighting.
的确如此,虽然腾讯在美国也可能被认定要承担损害赔偿责任,但他们的资源远远超过 Arc,可能会让这场仗不值得打。

[–]Acceptable-Cut9811 4 指標5 指標  (6 下層留言)

Ik nothing about legal battles between companies, so I'll just ask here: Why can't they sue them in US? 

[–]Minebuddy316 & 17 指標18 指標  (4 下層留言)

China won’t extradite them for trial so no point, it’s much like criminal proceedings AFAIK

[–]MugiwaraNoLawyer -4 指標-3 指標  (3 下層留言)

They don't need extraditing in this case, the legal entity would be sued, not the person, the IP infringement being accessible in US territory, they can be sued and forced to pay damages, whether China likes it or not.

[–]starfihgter 7 指標8 指標  (1 下層留言)

How are you going to force them to pay damages? This only works for large multinationals who need to have a formal presence in the US and other nations. Even then, only sometimes.

There’s a reason Chinese companies just take protected designs form overseas and get away with it.

[–]Minebuddy316 & 4 指標5 指標  (0 下層留言)

As the other commenter said the only thing the us can do is prevent them from conducting business in the US and even that is hard to stop

[–]starfihgter 4 指標5 指標  (0 下層留言)

They can sue them, but the Chinese company just can not show up and not care about the outcome, as it won’t be enforced in China. Arc could get an order to block the domain / distribution of the software, but that would be very difficult to enforce.

[–]spider623 [分數隱藏]  (0 下層留言)

it's not a Chinese company, it's a Chinese party owned and run company...

[–]hamadico 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

Can they sue them? because they are not pretending to be arc and confuse people. and I dont think arc has registered copyright on the design.

[–]malcolmjmr [分數隱藏]  (0 下層留言)

Sue them for what? I don’t believe Arc has any patents.
告他们什么?我不相信 Arc 有任何专利。

[–]JamesAulner128328 40 指標41 指標  (10 下層留言)

That's literally a carbon copy. Arc should sue them lol

[–]whowhatwherewhenwhyx 9 指標10 指標  (2 下層留言)

"Can I copy your homework?"

"Sure, but change it up a bit."

"Ok." "好的"

[–]average_chungus 8 指標9 指標  (0 下層留言)

It probably would go more like:

"Can I copy your homework?"

"wtf no" "不"

"Ok sure." "好的,当然"

[–]JamesAulner128328 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

Literally. 字面意思是

[–]geoken 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

Suing a Chinese company for IP violations? Probably smarter to just burn that money in your fireplace and at least get some use out of it.

[–]IHNIMAN 22 指標23 指標  (0 下層留言)

Good luck getting a copy right case through the chinese court system lmao.

[–]Lopsided-Passage-975 14 指標15 指標  (1 下層留言)

Sorry, as a Chinese developer, I feel ashamed about this.

[–]Albertkinng 4 指標5 指標  (0 下層留言)

Do the same for Linux and open source it! Let us customize it so it won’t be a copy unless you create the similar layout. I think this type of design is productive in Linux as well and they don’t have plans for Linux at all. Do it, man! /j
对 Linux 也这样做,并将其开源!让我们来定制它,这样它就不会被复制,除非你创建了类似的布局。我认为这种设计在 Linux 中也很有成效,而他们根本没有 Linux 计划。动手吧,伙计!/j

[–]DensityInfinite & 6 指標7 指標  (0 下層留言)

That ONE thing I didn't want Tencent to do. Like, can you just not have ANY good originality in your software?

It's like they took bits of Arc, SigmaOS and Safari, added them on top of their old browser, put it onto Windows, slapped on the signature Tencent "toolbox" for extra bloat, branded it under themselves and called it a day.
这就像他们从 Arc、SigmaOS 和 Safari 中汲取精华,将其添加到自己的旧浏览器上,然后将其放到 Windows 上,再加上腾讯标志性的 "工具箱 "以增加臃肿感,然后打上自己的烙印,就算完成了一天的工作。

That's not even mentioning the absolutely shocking Chromium 94 and the sheer amount of privacy issues/exploits that can come with this 2-year-old release (at the time of writing, Arc for macOS uses 122).
这还不算令人震惊的 Chromium 94,以及这个两年前发布的版本可能带来的大量隐私问题/漏洞(在撰写本文时,macOS 版 Arc 使用的是 122)。

Fortunately, according to the comments below this bilibili video, Chinese users don't like it as well.
幸运的是,根据这段 bilibili 视频下面的评论,中国用户也不喜欢它。

[–]Mysterious-Candy-379 6 指標7 指標  (0 下層留言)

Classic Tencent. 经典腾讯。
Anyone who has been online in China for more than a decade will know how many things Tencent has plagiarized. When plagiarism doesn't work, they will directly acquire that company, such as Riot.
在中国上网十多年的人都知道,腾讯剽窃了多少东西。剽窃不成,就直接收购,比如 Riot。

[–]debruehe 2 指標3 指標  (0 下層留言)

NotArc 非弧

[–]rpredrag 3 指標4 指標  (1 下層留言)

I wonder if they copied Arc Notes

[–]ethanmenzel 4 指標5 指標  (0 下層留言)

And then decided to unship it

[–]HubCode007 2 指標3 指標  (5 下層留言)

Classic Tencent. They love to copy.

I know because they copy every single damn software and still succeed. Do you think WeChat was an original idea, nah uh.

[–]Dapper-Comparison-66 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

yes,we all know ,it is known by everyone in china

[–]Total-Confusion-9198 3 指標4 指標  (0 下層留言)

Its good for marketing though

[–]xSnakyy 2 指標3 指標  (0 下層留言)

Are you sure this is a different browser

[–]ilaohui 2 指標3 指標  (0 下層留言)

As a developer in China, I really dislike Tencent because it often plagiarizes

[–]Relative_Pie_15 -1 指標0 指標  (1 下層留言)

What else do you expect from a chinese company

[–]average_chungus 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

No one truthful should be downvoting you.

[–]NoticeMeSinPi 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

Imitation is the highest form of flattery

[–]Lotusw0w 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

Chinese people and feeling shameful?

Choose one 选择一个

[–]ZwitterIon0 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

What's something that these Chinese company have of their own


[–]jinwooleo 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

not again china 又是中国

[–]Ascr1pt 0 指標1 指標  (1 下層留言)

[–]Ascr1pt 8 指標9 指標  (0 下層留言)

Tencent has a bad reputation even in China especially for copying.

[–]KootokuOne 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

it’s also based on chromium?

[–]wilburwong 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

It's so shameless 太无耻了

[–]tminhdn 0 指標1 指標  (3 下層留言)

QQ is better because they get rid of thick bezel.
QQ 更好,因为他们去掉了厚边框。

[–]ceptic_sore 1 指標2 指標  (0 下層留言)

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That's the Mac version. Windows one looks worse
这是 Mac 版本。Windows 版看起来更糟

[–]Siimongmz 1 指標2 指標  (1 下層留言)

it's there, is just that is te same color as the background of the web.

[–]ethanmenzel 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

Plus, they have a proper NTP
此外,他们还有一个适当的 NTP

[–]shuyhere 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

Sorry,Be ashamed of this.It's really hard for me to find a simple Chinese browser, and arc saved me.

[–]Dapper-Comparison-66 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

You can't sue him in China because it has government background, haha

[–]fcxtpwThe Browser Company 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

You know you've made it when Chinese companies are copying you 😅
当中国公司都在模仿你时,你就知道自己成功了 😅

[–]ethanmenzel 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

Direct copy, must be that good

[–]whoisluiggi 0 指標1 指標  (0 下層留言)

We have Arc at home
我们家里有 Arc

[–]Albertkinng 0 指標1 指標  (1 下層留言)

Is that a Linux Browser?
那是 Linux 浏览器吗?

[–]imaxnir [分數隱藏]  (0 下層留言)

No, Windows only. 不,仅限 Windows。

[–]nitrek [分數隱藏]  (0 下層留言)

I think they can copy the design but not the features

[–]spider623 [分數隱藏]  (0 下層留言)

QQ stopped using the IE look?
QQ 不再使用 IE 外观?

Also, did they use swift of c++?
另外,他们使用的是 C++ 的 swift 吗?

[–]melancious [分數隱藏]  (0 下層留言)

Just Chinese things 只是中国的东西