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You can live like this with a lot of credit. At least temporarily.
Just debt it up til I die baby
It's the American way
Some people be doing it and still working 50 hour weeks
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HUGE safety risk 💀
This feels like prostitution with extra steps
You can’t take your money with you when you die, but you sure can take someone else’s!
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greeheeheeheasy
And then just skip over to the next country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the folks you just fleeced.
I’d be extremely surprised if anyone was ever extradited for unpaid credit cards.
I’m going through a bankruptcy due to my business failing after a decade. Some of the debt is a huge amount that I of course had to personally guarantee. I don’t really have any assets, so it is mostly just a hassle and a credit hit for a few years…. But I was advised to stop paying on my credit cards as well, so they wouldn’t be see as being paid preferentially over the business debt.
They got closed and charged off with hardly a whisper once I told the cc collections people “I’m going to file bankruptcy”.
Even at the very very worst all they could do is sue me, file a lien, garnish my wages or whatever. We don’t really have debtors prison in the USA, so I doubt they’d extradite ya.
Who pays for rent, food and wine, healthcare, phone bill, bill, bill, bill, bill
Wife has an OnlyFans
Man I got tits I can show off, but im also a dude so idk how that would work on of
You never know until you try, overweighttardigrade.
There's a niche market for everything. Someone somewhere would pay.
Yeah but how many/how much? Granted it is a niche market and some people would definitely pay. But for him to reach said market, he woild have to be good with his advertising. Main problem is to figure out the percentage of people who would pay out of the entire group of ppl who like that stuff cause the aim is to have a certain lifestyle
Bro. There is a sub for people who stick sharpies in their butts. Not just one sharpie bro, sharpie with an s. And not the sarcastic s the plural s.
You could probably just do fart noises with your armpit while playing drums on your belly and you’re set for life.
So what are you waiting for?
Oprah to knock on my front door and tell me she is madly in love with me but only has months left to live. So she doesn’t care about a pre nup. But then miraculously she beats whatever it was and she comes to her senses and offers me 100 mill to kick rocks.
Then hopefully I won’t have to stick sharpies up my butt for a few dollars.
Sounds like you are dreaming with a full stomach.
Maybe man boobs are someone‘s fetish someone is willing to pay for! Someone please tell me if thats the case cus i could use some fetish of money
Just find chubby chasers or get into gay porn if you have the looks. A lot of guys are attracted to bears 🐻.
Got to show off something other than your tits, then.
A little googling suggests he’s a fitness influencer type. So the “train whenever he wants” part is him glossing over the fact that his job is to be fit and make it look easy on social media. Whether he’s promoting paid meal plans or “couching”, he’s selling the idea that YOU can have this lifestyle too if you buy his products, but the real secret is money. Specifically the money you’re paying him to find out how to live this way without money.
Now I didn’t do an enough digging to know if he was rich before becoming an influencer. Because this whole game relies on you having the lifestyle to project before you can sell your crap, most of them pretty much have to come from money from the start. A couple people can fake it with massive debt or becoming popular off of another form of content before switching to lifestyle stuff, but that’s not as common.
They always are. No one has the time to try and become a scam influencer without having mommy and daddy unconditionally supporting them.
Almost always I agree. But there are some folks who got lucky and are really good at bullshitting. The author of rich dad poor dad was the child of a teacher and a nurse (his dad is the poor dad and the rich dad was his neighbor). He’s not an influencer, but self help has a lot of overlap. He ran many businesses before writing his book and they were all pretty terrible and failed. But for some reason his stories about this rich neighbor, which have to be at least partially made up, sold really well despite none of the advice actually helping him when he applied it himself. The book about how to make money was the first thing that actually made him money.
You also have someone like Brittany dawn, who I don’t think was rich since she was working a normal job before becoming an influencer. She got big due to her personal weight loss, but I think was able to get away with her scammy meal plans for as long as she did despite having no credentials because of the same lifestyle marketing.
And you see it all the time in mlm folks. Some get lucky since they made it in early, but most of the ones you put themselves into to debt to recruit people fail.
I read the last part as Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill! And then added in my head "Bill Nye the science guy"
I lived on the beach in paradise for a few years. No healthcare. No phone. Plane ticket cheap. Rent was cheap and I did some house sitting. Worked at hostels. Food was cheap but I didn't eat a lot of times.
If you're good company you'll get plenty of drinks and party favors if you're into that kinda thing. It's definitely possible just don't get stabbed or shot (again being friendly and respectful was helpful).
Or old. I lived cheap and easy with no money and lots of free time in my youth. It was great and fun(not quite in a beach paradise but you get the idea) but you can't really do it forever if you want some kind of security as you age. I really fuckin wish that wasn't true, but that just ain't the world we live in. Especially not these days.
On up side you develop a lot of good habits, you still don't give a shit about money and don't derive your joy from expensive things.
We call these people trustafarians in my neck of the woods.
Trust fund kids who cosplay as hippies.
And they are everywhere.
a lot are trying to homestead now and tell us how much better they are without noticing the bank account they get to pull from to make their dreams real.
I know some people like this and they’re maddening to be around because they all like to pretend they’re not rich. Rich people cosplaying as poor people lol. It’s also kinda sad as a lot of them are basically just waiting for their parents to die so they can inherit another huge chunk of cash.
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A family member of mine is a Sheriff, so they get called out for reports of suicide and stuff, my family member was telling me about a call where a mature man committed suicide, he had been blowing so much money spoiling his adult daughter, and was lonely and did suicide, and the adult daughter showed up mad, still asking if she's going to still get her inheritance..
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I got most every toy I asked for, but I just didn't really ask for alot. (I'd get a few cheap toys through out the year)
I have a cousin though who was spoiled, she was allowed to do whatever she wanted since she was a toddler.. like I told her that ticks are in the bushes, so she cried, and my grandma told her it's ok to play in the bushes.
This cousin couldn't even use a microwave as a young teenager, she didn't have to go to school since 5th grade, and she demands expensive meals (that she wastes) and money and vacations and animals and is very rude and mean, still. I am honestly no contact with her.
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I’d prefer it like that? I had (and still have) a great friend from college who I had no idea was loaded up the fucking gills. She was getting $40k/month from her parents all through her 4 years in college, but never bought or did anything flashy.
Then we graduated and she started rooming with three of her other friends in a cramped house in SF. I didn’t know at the time, but her parents had cut her off because she didn’t want to go back home to Taiwan and wanted to stay in the US. A whole decade goes by and we’re none the wiser. Then Covid happens and she ends up going home to spend time with family after not seeing them for a decade and being cooped indoors for a year.
They drop a $20mm high rise condo on her and her boyfriend telling them that they can keep it if they stay in Taichung 🤣
Mind blowing moment for everyone that knew her in the US, but I have even more respect for her knowing she was ready to leave all that behind for her now husband and friends in the US.
$40k per month for four years is investment money, holy shit. She could've literally just camped on that, paid some frugal bills, and invested the rest and come out of college literally a millionaire, before landing her first job.
40K per month is probably the interest on her trustfund.
You would need a $9,600,000 fund to be able to pull $40,000 a month, assuming you pull 5% per year.
$40,000 x 12 = $480,000. $480,000 / 0.05 = $9,600,000.
Honestly less money than I thought.
It doesn't take that much money to not have to work again. It's really hard to make millions though.
I'm an outdoor instructor/consultant as well as some other equally bizarre things. These kinds of people are a staple of my client base.
Most normal people cannot afford to do a multi-day overnight survival program during the work week. So the industry runs on children (from very young to teenagers) on summer break or who are homeschooled, retirees (many of which physically cannot do the activity), wealthy professionals in their mid 30s to early 50s (for a few years it was mostly tech bros but that slowed down with all the layoffs), and trust fund kids in their early twenties.
And much like homesteading (an outdoor school I used to work for now specifically does homesteading classes) many of these trust fund kids decide they have ambitions to be outdoor instructors, mountain, and/or hunting guides after doing one or two programs. Not realizing that their situation is completely different form those of us who do this as a serious career with our livelihoods on the line. They have a safety net if things don't work out and can just pick up and leave when they get bored of it or it gets too hard. And they usually do, often in the most inopportune times. I also found that these folks tend to be weird about money to the point where it screws with everyone else's pay. Either demanding (and often receiving) more than their fair share or asking for drastically less pay (with some less reputable orgs use as an excuse to lower everyone else's pay). Recreational drug use is also often a problem with the trust fund instructors.
I live in a rural colorado town, we've got the guides out here pissed when an uncertified guide gets hired cause he's a friend or some other reason like they're cheaper, while not having those certifications the professional guides have makes the practice of hiring them illegal, but obviously it's not enforced.
"I don't want to be rich but I just want to be able to live comfortably for the rest of my life without worrying about money."
Motherfucker...
Just another kind of unattainable lifestyle, this time based on puritanism instead of excess. Same song, different tune.
I've actually heard a bunch of people in my area talking about this or talking about someone who does this. They're all very affluent.
No shit they can afford to do it.
I lived in Asheville and we had a lot of these.
Real and fake hippies are both mean.
Damn Reddit never fails to write exactly what I intended to write. Asheville was ripe with them when I was there.
I've heard hippies say the most abhorrent shit to people but then add "love and light!" at the end like that makes it all better. They're cunts.
Ugh, a lot of the music I like has these sort of fans and I’m embarrassed to admit I listen to it because of them lol. How are you going to preach love and togetherness and then turn around and insult someone for listening to different music than you lmao
Bonus points for being an “environmental advocate” and then leaving half of your campsite at the music fest
“All I wanna do is surf and chill (Mommy, Daddy, money plzzzzz.)”
Yep.
And honestly? Fine. Live your life. Happy for the good fortune up until “WhY DoESn’T EvERyOnE Do THiS?!”
And the conversation turns to that.
Every. Single. Time.
The first time I heard that term was many years ago from a real estate agent in Breckenridge, Co. He had some disdain for young trustafarians buying up properties up in the mountains. They didn’t really give a crap how much they cost, didn’t care about supporting the community, and maintaining the property was too much work. They would just buy stuff and let it rot.
I just funded my touring the country following a band the old fashioned way: selling lots of drugs
But yeah I met a lot of trustafarians on tour
We have a lot of those here in Massachusetts.
And they will say they aren’t rich.
yea my first encounter w them was back living in boulder in the 90's and they were EVERYWHERE ..man i am so sick of yada yada and this is BS and my folks suck...as he is walking over to his range rover
Ya. There is a quote, I’ve heard attributed to Bill Gates, that says “give your children enough money to do anything but not enough money to do nothing”. This is the later.
"I don't want to be rich, I just want to maintain this lifestyle that could absolutely only be supported long term if I was rich."
All I want out life is to have some place to live and be able to eat good food, drink fine wine without having to work at all.
Is that so much to ask?
You don't actually have to be "rich". The lifestyle itself isn't expensive. You can do it with a crappy job and a van. I've seen people live this way. It's when they get old (if they make it that far) that it really falls apart because they didn't plan for the future.
Yeah, this is the big problem. It's sweet to live like this in your mid to late 20's but then you need more health care, don't want to struggle all the time, and have to start thinking about what you'll be doing when you're 60 and all the easy money has dried up ages ago. Starting a family, or taking on any kind of ambitious life goals are also gone.
This is thread is literally full of people saying "you can totally live like this if you have a job"
And no kids*
That's the big one. I was able to spend my nights at a Cracker Barrel but live on the beach during the day. I work remotely from a shitty old bus, and from sunup to sun down I really lived a "rich people life" of beautiful views, beach and beauty while being pretty damn poor and semi homeless.
Wouldn't have been possible if I had kids. Not responsibly at least.
What? It's pretty easy honestly, just find some rich birds whose eggs are unhatched and just murder them by yeeting them out the nest and lay your eggs in their place. Even if you don't your kids will likely yeet them out themselves so they can get all the food.
The day when I can "wake up without an alarm" and "meditate mid-day" and "train whenever I want" and hold down a job and have time for sipping wine and eat well with good friends will be a day to behold. I guess the "surf a little" can realistically be fit in if you can afford to live in a place with goodish surfing opportunities.
I don’t want to be rich, either, I just want to live a life that is only possible if you have zero debt, zero responsibilities, and a ready pool of disposable income that I don’t have to work for.
If you work remote, this lifestyle costs 30-50 dollars per day in South East Asia depending on your standards regarding accommodation and restaurants.
And than your company goes hey why don't we get someone from South East Asia to do this job and pay them 3-5 dollars a day.
That's why you VPN from somewhere like Honolulu.
Colleagues of a friend did that lol but the time zone difference fucked them up because they had specific work times
Kinda hard to surf and meditate if you're sitting on your laptop doing whatever it is that those remote workers do.
I've knew some people who lead similar life and they weren't rich, they were leeches though. Always sleeping on someone's couch, always drinking on someone's else's tab, smoking a pack a day although never buying cigarettes. And on top of that they'd lecture others how working is oppression.
But that kind of life doesn't last forever, they either hit the bottom or had to get a normal job and normal life.
Or they just keep floating and getting lucky, finding the next person to leech off. Pretty crazy how some are ok with that life, I could never live with myself.
If your desire in life is to live the beachbum surfer life, that is what you do with no regret, there will always be someone willing to ride along and pay for the experience.
You don't see a lot of 60 something doing that though
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What probably happens is they age out and lose their charm, and the couch invites dry up. I'd probably find it kind of fun having a couple 25yr old beach bums crash at my place for a couple days and hang out, but I sure as hell wouldn't feel the same about a couple of 40yr old beach bums.
They usually get in a relationship with someone with a job at this point and leech out of them.
yes there is a term for it: hobosexuals
This happened to my cousin. He got by being a beautiful hippie bum and sleeping on his friends’ couches until exactly age 40. Now they’ve all cut him off because they have families and responsibilities. He keeps ending up in homeless shelters because when we point him to work opportunities, he says work just “isn’t for him.”
Hah yep there you go. When you're 25 and you're young, beautiful, free spirited, living the life...you've got a charm to you, a spark, a vibe, an essence. People want to be around you and absorb some of it.
And then at some point between that age and around 40, a switch flips throughout all of society and you no longer have "it".
I don't know why exactly that is, and as someone who was 25 and beautiful at one point and is now 40 (and still feeling youthful, in good shape and taking care of myself)...I've spent a bit of time trying to think of why exactly that shine wears off, and honestly I just don't really know, but I can absolutely feel that it has.
IMO part of the charm is that people assume the 25yr old bums are just doing it as a phase, and will eventually grow out of it and progress to "normal" life. They aren't actually bums, they're just kids living the fun life until they get settled into a career or something
The 40yr old bum (regardless of how charming/attractive they are) is past that point, and people tend to see them as actually being bums.
It's similar to college kids being able to drink every day and have shitty/messy rooms and people laugh it off, but if you're 30-40 drinking every day and your room looks like a frat house people are concerned
My friend's wife is kinda like that. Says 9 to 5s are a prison, her husband (who works 9 to 5) pays the bills.
It’s called leeching; it’s a big thing to do.
I know the type. Don't forget the part where they have the solutions to all the world's problems, but can't solve any of their own problems.
"As long as i have the money for that, I'm good" YEAH I THINK I WOULD BE TOO YEAH
it is possible to do it. you just need to move to cambodia, the philippines, or vietnam
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I just want to have the body of the girl in the bikini
And keep it in the freezer
That still sounds expensive as fuck
That's the whole point of this post.
I'm convinced reddit now has upvote bots that just pick random comments to make comment threads seem more active
The rich dude dreaming of #vanlife reminds me of the affluent Boomers in the 60's that decided to become "cultural crusader" hippies and move to the Haight to live in the gutter using mommy and daddy's money.
Disgusting.
You can live like this without money. Just can't have your cake and eat it too. Expect to give up luxuries and probably being homed. These things are not in themselves luxuries they're just life without a full time job