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I finally found the "sound in my head" pedal: EBS Valve Drive DI
我终于找到了“声音在我脑海中”的踏板:EBS Valve Drive DI

For years, I’ve been after this elusive tube amp just starting to break up tone. The kind of tone that is warm and rounded with a bit of hair, especially when you dig in. I haven’t tried a ton of OD’s but a fair amount, including VT Bass, Ampeg SCR-DI, Xotic BB Bass Booster, SFT, EHX English Muff’n, Ibanez Bass Tube Screamer and Darkglass VMT. All are good in their own way, but they all sound (to me) like an overdrive pedal in front of a clean amp rather than an actual tube amp on its own.
多年来,我一直在寻找这个难以捉摸的电子管放大器,它刚刚开始分解音色。那种温暖圆润的色调,带有一点头发,尤其是当你深入研究时。我没有尝试过很多 OD,但尝试了相当多,包括 VT Bass、Ampeg SCR-DI、Xotic BB Bass Booster、SFT、EHX English Muff'n、Ibanez Bass Tube Screamer 和 Darkglass VMT。它们都以自己的方式很好,但它们听起来(对我来说)都像是干净放大器前面的过载踏板,而不是单独的实际电子管放大器。


Recently, I finally got around to picking up an EBS Valve Drive DI. THIS is the tone! It just makes everything rounder and fuller sounding and has this amazing touch sensitivity that I don’t quite get with the best of the other pedals I’ve tried. I’m normally fairly suspicious of pedals that incorporate tubes since some of them seem to be employed more as a gimmick as opposed to having a real effect on the tone. Alas, the Valve Drive is guilty of employing a cheesy red LED that is supposed to simulate tube filament glow. However, according to EBS, the internally circuitry bumps up the voltage to the 12AX7 tube so that it is actually operating at high voltage levels. Don’t really understand the need for that LED, then. Even if it is a “starved plate” design, like the BK Butler Tube Driver, I think EBS nailed it. To me, this thing really sounds like a tube amp and not some simulation. In either “vintage” or “modern” mode the tone and feel is round, harmonically rich and spongey. It can also do heavier overdrive well. But, for what I want it to do, it excels.
最近,我终于抽出时间拿起了 EBS Valve Drive DI。这就是基调!它只是让一切听起来更圆润、更饱满,并且具有我尝试过的其他最好的踏板所无法获得的惊人的触摸灵敏度。我通常对包含电子管的踏板持怀疑态度,因为其中一些踏板似乎更多地被用作噱头,而不是对音调产生真正的影响。唉,Valve Drive 使用了一个俗气的红色 LED,它应该模拟灯丝发光。然而,根据 EBS 的说法,内部电路将电压提高到 12AX7 管,使其实际上在高压水平下运行。那么,我并不真正了解对那个 LED 的需求。即使是像 BK Butler Tube Driver 这样的“饥饿板”设计,我认为 EBS 也做到了。对我来说,这东西听起来真的像一个电子管放大器,而不是什么模拟。在 “复古 ”或 “现代 ”模式下,音色和感觉是圆润的、和谐的丰富和海绵状的。它也可以很好地完成更重的过载。但是,就我希望它做的事情而言,它非常出色。
 
Anyone have similar experiences with the Valve Drive? Is there something you prefer to it?
有人对 Valve Drive 有类似的体验吗?有没有你更喜欢的东西?

Never tried one but would like to for curiosity's sake. I use a Barbershop for the tube pre / tube power vibe...it was available and more in my price range.
从未尝试过,但出于好奇,我想尝试一下。我使用 Barbershop 进行 tube pre / tube power vibe...它可用,而且在我的价格范围内更多。


Riis  里斯
 
I have used my ValveDrive like that for close to 15 years now! I have the original non-di version. It will never leave my pedalboard.
我这样使用我的 ValveDrive 已经将近 15 年了!我有原始的非 di 版本。它永远不会离开我的效果器板。


I primarily use it when I want a 'just breaking up' tube amp sound when I don't have a crunchy tube amp for backline. It takes other overdrives going into it very well, too! I only turn it off when I need super clean glassy tones (rarely) or when using a very peaky envelope filter.
我主要在我想要一个 “只是分解 ”的电子管放大器声音时使用它,而我没有一个松脆的电子管放大器作为后线。它也需要其他过载才能很好地进入它!我只在需要超级干净的玻璃色调(很少)或使用非常尖锐的包络滤波器时关闭它。


Recently I started using a ShiftLine Olympic bass preamp/di/ir loader. It probably rivals the EBS, but I'm only using it to go to front of house, not a stage amp. The EBS is still there to make the stage amp purr!
最近我开始使用 ShiftLine Olympic 贝斯前置放大器/di/ir 加载器。它可能可以与 EBS 相媲美,但我只用它来调音台,而不是舞台放大器。EBS 仍然存在,让舞台放大器发出咕噜咕噜的声音!
 

Can you compare the EBS and SLO a bit more?
您能更多地比较一下 EBS 和 SLO 吗?
 
I too am interested in comparisons with the SLO. The SLO seems to get a lot of love.
我也对与 SLO 的比较感兴趣。SLO 似乎受到了很多喜爱。


According to the Valve Drive manual, the flat setting is with the midrange up full and bass and treble at 0. So I suppose it could be mid scooped if you roll back the mid knob. I don't really hear a pronounced scoop, though.
根据 Valve Drive 手册,降调设置是中频全开,低音和高音为 0。所以我想如果你把中间旋钮往后推,它可能是 mid scooped。不过,我真的没有听到明显的独家新闻。
 
I also have a Valvedrive and really am interested in the SLO to maybe replace it.
我还有一个 Valvedrive,并且真的很想用 SLO 来替换它。


What does the Valvedrive do sound-wise that the SLO cannot achieve?
Valvedrive 在声音方面做了什么 SLO 无法实现的?
 
I'm not sure I would call either the ValveDrive or the SLO inherently mid-scooped. Of course, they both feature passive tone stacks where mid boost isn't really a thing... Honestly, the Tech21 products I have owned all exhibited quite a bit of mid scoop. The BassDriver DI in particular I stopped using because of so much scoop!
我不确定我是否应该将 ValveDrive 或 SLO 称为天生的中铲式。当然,它们都具有被动音调堆栈,其中中音增强并不是一个真正的事情......老实说,我拥有的 Tech21 产品都表现出相当多的中价。特别是 BassDriver DI,我因为太多的独家新闻而停止使用!


That said, the ValveDrive essentially has one "voice" (the modern switch makes it a little fizzier though while adding some distortion). The SLO is capable of more voices by using different IR's.
也就是说,ValveDrive 基本上只有一个 “声音”(现代开关使它有点嘶嘶作响,同时增加了一些失真)。SLO 使用不同的 IR 能够处理更多语音。


The SLO is more of an "amp in a box". You get natural tube compression (a lot as you increase gain), musical tube clipping, and the sense of air & space associated with a mic'ed up amp & cabinet in a small room. It also can bypass the IR section and you get more of a straightforward, dry preamp sound. Still very tubey, but without the 3d sense of space.
SLO 更像是一个 “盒装放大器”。你会得到自然的电子管压缩(随着你增加增益的程度很多),音乐管剪辑,以及与麦克风提升的放大器和橱柜相关的空气和空间感。它还可以绕过 IR 部分,让您获得更直接、干燥的前置放大器声音。仍然非常管状,但没有 3D 空间感。


The ValveDrive is more of a straight preamp. Sending it straight into a recording device doesn't so much yield an "amp" sound as it does an excellent tube preamp. Warm, musical, and very usable in a mix but without the sense of space that an actual amp would yield.
ValveDrive 更像是一个直式前置放大器。将其直接发送到录音设备中并不会产生 “amp” 声音,因为它会产生出色的电子管前置放大器。温暖、音乐性,在混音中非常有用,但没有实际放大器产生的空间感。


Maybe how I use both word help? I run the ValveDrive as an "always on" source of color when I'm given a clean sounding backline amp. I also turn it on when playing more aggressive material even with a tube amp. It can also function as a killer overdrive/distortion effect. When engaged, the ValveDrive is sent both to my stage amp and di.
也许我是如何使用这两个词 help 的?当我得到一个听起来干净的背线放大器时,我将 ValveDrive 作为“始终开启”的色彩源运行。即使使用电子管放大器,我也会在播放更具侵略性的材料时打开它。它还可以用作杀手级过载/失真效果。启用后,ValveDrive 会同时发送到我的舞台放大器和 di。


The SLO is new to me, and I haven't been gigging due to covid. I did, however, use it for web broadcasted "show" with a Canadian country artist I work for. I plan to use the SLO as an "amp" when I don't have an actual amp running. So on a "clean stage", for example, or as a direct recording option instead of a software amp plug-in. It is the last device in my pedal chain as such. I also really love it as a headphone amp on my board for hotel practice, late night playing at home, and I like the aux-in implementation for playing along with music I am learning or a drum machine/groove sampler. It really does sound like a real amp turned up! I doubt I would run the SLO into my stage amp, so I have it wired up so the unaffected parallel output goes to my amplifier.
SLO 对我来说是新的,而且由于 covid,我没有演出过。然而,我确实用它来与我工作的一位加拿大乡村艺术家进行网络广播“表演”。我打算在没有实际运行放大器时将 SLO 用作“放大器”。例如,在 “干净的舞台” 上,或者作为直接录音选项而不是软件放大器插件。它是我踏板链中的最后一个装置。我也非常喜欢它作为我板上的耳机放大器,用于酒店练习、在家深夜演奏,我喜欢 aux-in 实现,用于与我正在学习的音乐一起演奏或鼓机/groove 采样器。它听起来确实像一个真正的放大器!我怀疑我是否会将 SLO 运行到我的舞台放大器中,所以我把它连接起来,这样不受影响的并行输出就会进入我的放大器。


The ValveDrive has been an indispensable piece of gear for me over the last 15 years or so. It adds just the right amount of grit/hair and warmth at low gain settings that responds extremely well to playing dynamics.
在过去的 15 年左右的时间里,ValveDrive 一直是我不可或缺的装备。它在低增益设置下添加了恰到好处的砂砾/头发和温暖度,对演奏动态的反应非常好。


I haven't had the SLO long enough to heap such praise, but I am legitimately blown away every time I use it by how real it sounds. It sounds like an amplifier with the IR engaged. Very inspiring! With the IR section turned off, it is similar to the ValveDrive but perhaps a little less 'warm'.
我拥有 SLO 的时间还不够长,无法获得如此的赞誉,但每次使用它时,我都被它听起来的真实程度所震撼。这听起来像一个 amplifier 启用了 IR。非常鼓舞人心!关闭 IR 部分后,它与 ValveDrive 相似,但可能不那么“温暖”。


That's long winded, but I hope it helps!
这很啰嗦,但我希望它能有所帮助!
 

Not long winded at all. Very articulate and informative. Thanks!
一点也不长。非常清晰且信息丰富。谢谢!
 

Exactly what I needed. Thanks so much for taking the time!
正是我所需要的。非常感谢您抽出时间接受采访!
 
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这很啰嗦,但我希望它能有所帮助![/引用]


Thank you, Brother. Extremely helpful infomation, for my needs.
谢谢你,兄弟。非常有用的信息,满足我的需求。

Blessings to you, sir.
祝福您,先生。
 
I had a Valve Drive years ago.....liked but didn't love it. I now have an AMT-A bass preamp (attempt at cloning an Alembic preamp), also with a single 12AX7, and I like it a lot.....same concept....just a preamp but has perhaps a bit more tonal control than the EBS, and is much smaller......I am experimenting with it with vs without a Johnny Rock De Mixette wet/dry blender.
几年前我有一台 Valve Drive.....喜欢但不喜欢它。我现在有一个 AMT-A 贝斯前置放大器(尝试克隆 Alembic 前置放大器),也带有一个 12AX7,我非常喜欢它.....同样的概念......只是一个前置放大器,但可能比 EBS 有更多的音调控制,而且要小得多......我正在用 Johnny Rock De Mixette 湿/干搅拌机来试验它。
 
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Really didn't have an interest in a new pedal but this thread got me interested.
真的对新踏板不感兴趣,但这个帖子引起了我的兴趣。

The Valve Drive seems really versatile and preserves the low end and clarity even at moderate levels.
Valve Drive 似乎真的很通用,即使在中等水平上也能保持低端和清晰度。

I really like this YouTube video and thought some of you might as well.
我真的很喜欢这个 YouTube 视频,并认为你们中的一些人也可能会喜欢。

 
I had them side by side a few weeks ago and by far prefered the ValveDrive - but hey, different folks ;)
几周前我把它们并排放置,到目前为止更喜欢 ValveDrive - 但是,嘿,不同的人 ;)

Maybe it was because I was also looking at dirtier sounds, are you using the A Bass completly clean?
也许是因为我也在看更脏的声音,你用的 A Bass 是完全干净的吗?


 
I had them side by side a few weeks ago and by far prefered the ValveDrive - but hey, different folks ;)
几周前我把它们并排放置,到目前为止更喜欢 ValveDrive - 但是,嘿,不同的人 ;)

Maybe it was because I was also looking at dirtier sounds, are you using the A Bass completly clean?
也许是因为我也在看更脏的声音,你用的 A Bass 是完全干净的吗?

I'm using it from clean through light OD, but nothing gnarly/heavy. Yeah.....different strokes :-)
我从干净到轻 OD 都在使用它,但没有粗糙/沉重的东西。是的。。。。。不同的笔画 :-)
 
I just picked up an EBS ValveDrive DI this past week and love it. It sounds great and is exactly what I was looking for.
上周我刚刚拿起了一个 EBS ValveDrive DI,我很喜欢它。这听起来很棒,正是我一直在寻找的。
 
I just picked up an EBS ValveDrive DI this past week and love it. It sounds great and is exactly what I was looking for.
上周我刚刚拿起了一个 EBS ValveDrive DI,我很喜欢它。这听起来很棒,正是我一直在寻找的。
I have the older "non di" version. I love the sound of it. Recently purchased a NuX Melvin Lee Davis preamp pedal. It is ridiculously cheap, and, with little to no effort, can be made to sound exactly like the EBS. It also has many very desirable features which I find very useful. I will be keeping my EBS, but the Davis pedal has absolutely found a home with me.
我有较旧的 “non di” 版本。我喜欢它的声音。最近购买了 NuX Melvin Lee Davis 前置放大器踏板。它便宜得离谱,而且几乎不费吹灰之力,就可以让声音与 EBS 一模一样。它还具有许多非常有用的非常理想的功能。我会保留我的 EBS,但戴维斯踏板绝对在我身边找到了家。
 
I just got a Valvedrive and it is the tone I have been searching for forever. I went through so many pedals on my journey it was ridiculous! Needless to say it’s time to sell my compressor, I won’t be needing it anymore.
我刚刚买了一台 Valvedrive,这是我一直在寻找的音色。我在旅途中经历了这么多踏板,这太荒谬了!不用说,是时候卖掉我的压缩机了,我不再需要它了。


EBS is worth every penny. I run my P bass through the Valvedrive and into a Sansamp Bass driver. It makes my amp sound like a tube SVT fridge on steroids!
EBS 物有所值。我将我的 P 贝司通过 Valvedrive 运行并进入 Sansamp Bass 驱动器。它让我的放大器听起来像打了类固醇的电子管 SVT 冰箱!
 
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